This Is How Obamacare Will Affect Your Taxes

For many Americans, the “fun” part about filing their taxes is dealing with the way the tax laws change from year to year.

For 2014, the Affordable Care Act will provide more tax-filing fun than ever before.

Actually, most Americans will not have to make any dramatic changes to their tax forms because of the ACA.

If a taxpayer was covered for insurance the entirety of 2014, all they need do is mark on their return that they were covered by an employee-based policy, Medicaid, Medicare, or a personally owned policy.

If that covers your situation, you can relax.

However, if for any part of 2014 you were without health insurance, you need to get your hands on Form 8965, which will determine if you can claim an exemption from the requirement to have insurance (based on religious, ethnic or income level allowances) or to calculate the penalty for the months you did not have coverage.

One of the main elements of the ACA is that everybody who can afford to have insurance must have insurance.

The penalty for not having health insurance in 2014 is a maximum of $95 per adult and half that, $47.50, for children, or 1% of your taxable income above the taxable filing threshold of $10,150, whichever is greater. If you have income greater than $10,000, and you did not have health insurance in 2014, you will pay 1% of your taxable income.

The amount will increase for 2015, to a maximum of $325 per adult, $162.50 for children, or 2% of taxable income. In 2016, the penalty is $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, or 2.5% of a family’s income, whichever is greater.

You avoid the penalty by having health insurance. You can also avoid the penalty by claiming an exemption, and many of those can be claimed directly on the tax return. One such exemption is if your income is below the filing threshold of $10,150 for an individual.

Another exemption from the penalty is if you had a short coverage gap of less than three consecutive months.

Some exemptions are granted through the healthcare marketplace, and could take up to two weeks to process the application. That includes an exemption if health care would cost you more than 8% of your income. In that case, you must get an exemption certificate from the healthcare exchange.

One very important exemption relates to people living in states that chose not to expand their health care programs. If you experienced a particular hardship, and would have been eligible for Medicaid under the new health care law but could not get Medicaid because of your state’s health care law decisions, you are exempt from the tax penalty.

Other exemption include incarcerated citizens, Native Americans who are covered by the Indian Health Service, or people who object to health care for religious reasons.

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  • JohnDille

    Do you have any idea how business works? If I was working for somebody that paid for my insurance it would be part of my compensation package. THAT IS HOW THE VERY LARGE MAJORITY OF WORKING PEOPLE GET THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE… THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYERS…. AND THEN THEIR EMPLOYERS DEDUCT THOSE COSTS FROM THEIR TAXABLE INCOME… SO THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT… IN EFFECT… PAYS AS MUCH AS 40% OF THOSE COSTS!!! ALL OF WHICH YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT BUSINESS. BUT AS YOU YOURSELF SAID….. If I was working for somebody …. YOU ARE SUCH A DEAD BEAT AND SUCH A LEECH AND SUCH A PARASITE THAT YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE A JOB!!! SO…. ENJOY YOUR FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE THAT ALL OF US LIBERAL DEMOCRATS PAID FOR!!! AT LEAST WE DO NOT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH YOUR SORRY WORTHLESS RUMP OUT HERE IN THE WORLD OF HARD WORK… YOU ARE NOT OUT HERE, SO YOU CANNOT GET IN OUR WAY!!!!

  • Ranger3

    More socialists talking points. You are tooo indoctrinated to know when your are being an idiot. Do you have any idea how business works? If I was working for somebody that paid for my insurance it would be part of my compensation package. For your information that is economics and how business works. A business owner provides a product or service that people want or need. The business owner takes out all the expenses for that good or service and the money left over is profit, which he lives on. Nobody makes you buy the product or service. You can go to the competition if you want. Unlike the government they don’t need to make a profit. They just strong arm rob working class people into paying more taxes. Or they print more money out of thin air. Socialists are such pathetic stupid bunch of people. You don’t understand business or wages because you have been leeching off of others your whole life.

  • Ranger3

    You need get off your knees and out from under obama’s desk. What liberal talking point web site did you get your so called facts from. For your information obama and his billionaire buddies spent over $1 billion for his reelection in 2012. The same billionaire big business people that you socialist love to hate. That tells me that obama was bought and paid for by big business. Now you know why obama gave so much money to failed green enery companies. Socialists are such hypocrites. Next fact soroes, tom steyer and many other billionaires are supporting the democrat/socialist party. They are hypocrites also. They hate capitalism yet they made billions off of capitalism. So take the tin foil hat off your head and get back on your meds. You are going to hurt yourself.

  • JohnDille

    THESE ARE THE FACTS POINTED OUT TO ME……The Koch brothers just announced that they plan to spend $889 million on the 2016 election.

    That’s more than President Obama spent on his entire re-election campaign. In fact, it’s almost as much as Mitt Romney spent in 2012. The news came during their annual summit—where GOP presidential candidates like Governor Scott Walker and Senator Rand Paul lined up to ask for Koch brother support. This is what buying our democracy looks like.

    The key is to turn this massive Koch spending into a political negative for any candidate who gets their cash, by focusing on the Kochs’ long history of outsourcing jobs, polluting the environment, driving down wages, and crushing local businesses. If voters know the truth, they’ll immediately become suspicious of any candidate with strong Koch backing. RIGHT WINGERS WILL NOT BECOME SUSPICIOUS OF CANDIDATES SEEKING KOOK BROTHER SUPPORT…. IN FACT, RIGHT WINGERS WILL FALL DOWN AND WORSHIP AT THE PRIVATE ALTARS THEY HAVE BUILT TO THE KOOK BROTHERS. THE KOOK BROTHERS ARE GODS TO RIGHT WINGERS WHO ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF RIGHT WING BILLIONAIRE MASTERS WHO WILL GUIDE THEM AROUND LIKE THE SHEEP THAT THEY ARE!!!LIFE WHILE THEY ARE AT IT…. RIGHT WINGERS ARE JUST NATURAL BORN PARASITRES AND LEECHES!!!

  • JohnDille

    Your stupidity is showing. You go to the same rip off doctors and hospitals if you are on EMPLOYER SPONSORED INSURANCE as the rest of the people. The only difference is you are leeching off of society BY HAVING YOUR EMPLOYER PASS ON YOUR INSURANCE AND MEDICAL COSTS TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, AND BY DEDUCTING YOUR COSTS FROM THEIR TAXES, THUS making hard working tax payers pay for your failures in life. You should be proud of yourself a failure in life and making other hard working people pay for you to be useless. RIGHT WING LOSERS like you don’t care about others as long as you get your free crap.

  • Ranger3

    The only science that you know is how to be a burden on society. You are not even competent enough to come up with a good rebuttal to facts pointed out to you. You go to your socialists web site to see what talking point to vomit back. I can predict what you are going to say every time. You are a legend in your own mind.

  • Ranger3

    Your stupidity is showing. You go to the same rip off doctors and hospitals if you are on obamacare as the rest of the people. The only difference is you are leeching off of society and making hard working tax payers pay for your failures in life. You should be proud of yourself a failure in life and making other hard working people pay for you to be useless. People like you don’t care about others as long as you get your free crap.

  • JohnDille

    There will be no doctors or hospitals because they left that business because over regulation and low obamacare payments to pay for the services. Enjoy your obamacare idiot. THANK YOU FOR ASKING… I DO RATHER ENJOY OBAMACARE… OR AS PROFESSIONALS AND EDUCATED PEOPLE CALL IT… MEDICARE!!! YOU DO REALIZE… DO YOU NOT… THAT OBAMACARE IS REALLY JUST AN EXTENSION OF MEDICARE, EXCEPT THAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THE CURRENT MEDUICARE SYSTEM ARE REQUIRED TO BUY SUBSIDIZED HEALTH INSURANCE, UNTIL THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH TO QUALIFY FOR MEDIARE. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY WORK PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WAY. YOU GET SICK, YOU GO TO A DOCTOR, AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY… IF YOU ARE ON OBAMACARE… PAYS ALL OR MOST OF THE BILL, IT WORKS THE EXACT SAME WAY IF YOU ARE ON MEDICARE… YOU GET SICK… YOU GO TO A DOCTOR… AND THE MEDICARE SYSTEM PAYS THE DOCTOR, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY THE BALANCE, BUT IT IS FAR BETTER THAN HAVING TO PAY THE WHOLE COST YOURSELVES!!! TOO BAD ALL YOU CAPITALISTS ARE STUCK PAYING GROSSLY INFLATED PRICES FOR THE RIP OFF INSURANCE AND RIP OFF DOCTORS AND RIP OFF HOSPITALS YOU ARE FORCED TO DO BUSINESS WITH…. BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO GET OBAMACARE, OR TOO YOUNG TO QUALIFY FOR MEDICARE!!!

  • JohnDille

    SO…. WHAT YOU KEEP TELLING ME IS THAT YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE TOTALLY CONTROLLED SHEEP, BRAIN WASHED COMPLETELY BY YOUR FAR RIGHT BILLIONAIRE MASTERS, AND THUS CONSTANTLY VOMITING ALL OF THEIR RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS. YOU WILL BE SORELY DISAPPOINTED TO LEARN THAT WE ON THE LEFT HAVE NO EQUIVALENT SYSTEM. WE PRETTY MUCH THINK FOR OURSELVES… LIBERALS DO NOT NEED TO VOMIT UP ANYTHING…. THAT IS A RIGHT WING CHARACTERISTIC… AND YOU DO A MASTERFUL JOB OF VOMITING UP THE SAME TALKING POINT… OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!! WE SOCIALISTS… OR LIBERALS… OR DEMOCRATS, OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU CHOOSE TO KEEP CALLING US, CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR SUPERFICIAL COMMENTS AND THE SO CALLED THINKING BEHIND THEM… AND WE HAVE NO USE FOR SUCH INCREDIBLY CHILDISH THOUGHTS!!!

  • JohnDille

    WELL… AS ANY SCIENTIST KNOWS… ABSOLUTE ZERO IS FAR FAR FAR BELOW A MERE NEGATIVE 100 DEGREES. SO I AM ASSUMING THAT INTELLIGENCE WISE, MOST OF YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE DOWN PRETTY CLOSE TO ABSOLUTE ZERO, INTELLIGENCE WISE. THOSE THAT ARE NOT ARE BELOW ABSOLUTE ZERO…. WHICH BELIEVE IT NOT… IS NOW ACTUALLY POSSIBLE! REAL SCIENCE IS MARVELOUS…. TOO BAD YOU RIGHT WINGERS JUST CANNOT GRASP ANY OF IT!!!

  • JohnDille

    YOU AND CABOT CAN TWIST THE FACTS ALL AROUND… AND YOU NOMRALLY DO… BUT THE HARD CENTRAL FACT IS…. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AUTO INSURANCE IF YOU DRIVE.YOU DO NOT HAVE AUTO INSURANCE, YOU RISK HAVING TO PAY A FAIRLY STUIFF FINE… OR GO TO JAIL!!! AND YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF HEALTH INSURANCE… UNLESS YOU MEET A LONG LIST OF EXEMPTIONS….. AND IF YOU DO NOT, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PAY A FINE! NO JAIL TIME, AS FAR AS I KNOW! THEIR IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE REQUIREMENTS, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU RIGHT WINGERS MIGHT INSIST THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!

  • Ranger3

    Where was she at a VA hospital? That is what the brave men and women that fought for you freedom, to be a useful idiot, have gone thru for years. The VA is a government ran medical system. Just think of how bad it will be when the obamacare kicks in full speed. There will be no doctors or hospitals because they left that business because over regulation and low obamacare payments to pay for the services. Enjoy your obamacare idiot.

  • Ranger3

    You are a sheeple being fattened up for slaughter by your so called democracy loving socialists. It would be funny if the only people that are going to get hurt was the useful idiots. The sad part is if the people that believe in the constitution can not get control soon. All of America will be slaughtered. You think you are so smart why don’t you show me where anything obama and the socialists have done is legal with the constitution. I can already hear your socialist talking points being vomited up by you.

  • Ranger3

    You can’t make a coherent argument with the socialist talking points. You will hurt yourself if you try to do it on your own. I heard they invented a new IQ test and scale for liberals. It starts at 0 and goes to -100 because liberals have no positive thinking abilities. The scale works like this at 0 you are a harmless liberal, at -50 you are a full blown socialists and -100 you are a full blown card carrying communist. Because you have to be that stupid to believe in the crap they are pedaling. You are at -99 on the scale. Both clintons, obama pelosi and sleazy harry are at -100. Keep trying you will be able to make -100 when you grow up.

  • Ranger3

    dillweed step away from the crack pipe! I’m getting concerned about you. From your rants, I can tell that you have only brain cell left. Don’t kill the last one. Then you would end up as a cabinet member of the obama administration.

  • Ranger3

    let me explain the difference. I know you are to brain dead to understand from chemical enhancements, but maybe somebody that thinks kind of like you will read this and realize how wrong thinking he is. Driving is a privilege so to do that you buy insurance for that privilege. Now for obamacare. the only thing that is required is you breathe. That is necessary to live you can not choose to not breathe. See the difference now dip stick?
    Keep tyring to twist your fantasy talking point around to facts. The only one that believes then are the socialist useful idiots that can not even register an IQ.

  • JohnDille

    A woman who lay bleeding on the emergency room floor of a troubled inner-city hospital died after 911 dispatchers refused to contact paramedics or an ambulance to take her to another facility, newly released tapes of the emergency calls reveal.

    Edith Isabel Rodriguez, 43, died of a perforated bowel on May 9 at Martin Luther King Jr.-Harbor Hospital. Her death was ruled accidental by the Los Angeles County coroner’s office.

    Relatives said Rodriguez was bleeding from the mouth and writhing in pain for 45 minutes while she was at a hospital waiting area. Experts have said she could have survived had she been treated early enough.

    County and state authorities are now investigating Rodriguez’s death. Relatives reported she died as police were wheeling her out of the hospital after the officers they had asked to help Rodriguez arrested her instead on a parole violation. Sheriff’s Department spokesman Duane Allen said Wednesday that the investigation is ongoing.

    In the recordings of two 911 calls that day, first obtained by the Los Angeles Times under a California Public Records Act request, callers pleaded for help for Rodriguez but were referred to hospital staff instead.

    “I’m in the emergency room. My wife is dying and the nurses don’t want to help her out,” Rodriguez’s boyfriend, Jose Prado, is heard saying in Spanish through an interpreter on the tapes.

    “What’s wrong with her?” a female dispatcher asked.

    “She’s vomiting blood,” Prado said.

    “OK, and why aren’t they helping her?” the dispatcher asked.

    ‘They’re just watching her’
    “They’re watching her there and they’re not doing anything. They’re just watching her,” Prado said.

    The dispatcher told Prado to contact a doctor and then said paramedics wouldn’t pick her up because she was already in a hospital. She later told him to contact county police officers at a security desk.

    A second 911 call was placed eight minutes later by a bystander who requested that an ambulance be sent to take Rodriguez to another hospital for care.

    “She’s definitely sick and there’s a guy that’s ignoring her,” the woman told a male dispatcher.

    During the call, the dispatcher argued with the woman over whether there really was an emergency.

    “I cannot do anything for you for the quality of the hospital. … It is not an emergency. It is not an emergency ma’am,” he said.

    “You’re not here to see how they’re treating her,” the woman replied.

    The dispatcher refused to call paramedics and told the woman that she should contact hospital supervisors “and let them know” if she is unhappy.
    JUST ONE STORY… OUT OF TENS OF THOUSANDS… THAT SHOULD MAKE IT CLEAR TO YOU IGNORANT ARROGANT SELFISH SELF CENTERED REPUBLICANS THAT FOR HUGE NUMBERS OF AMERICANS… THERE IS NO REAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM… AT ALL… OR THAT IT IS MOSTLY A SCAM RUN BY RICH PEOPLE AT THE EXPENSE OF ORDINARY PEOPLE!!!

  • Joe Cabot

    Uh, law enforcement can issue a ticket for driving without insurance which can lead to time in court and a fine. Seems like they consider it a criminal act. Just like the BarryCare folks decided that not purchasing a piece of their garbage was a criminal act which leads to a penalty to be paid to government if one does not go along. Again, seems like a criminal act.

  • JohnDille

    YEAH… DEMOCRACY…. OR SOCIALISM AS YOU KEEP CALLING IT…. IS SO MESSY!!! IF REPUBLICANS HAD THEIR WAY, THEY WOULD JUST CRAM THEIR FASCIST DICTATORSHIP DOWN OUR THROATS, AND ALL OF US SLAVES WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT IT… OR DIE TRYING TO GAIN OUR FREEDOM! BUT THOSE DAMN LIBERALS… THOSE SOCIALISTS… THOSE DEMOCRATS… THEY BELIEVE IN REAL DEMOCRACY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE… NOT JUST THE PHONY DEMOCRACY OF THE RICH ELITE WHO TOTALLY CONTROL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!! But don’t bother trying to explain any of this to Ranger IQ of 3…. he is so totally brainwashed by right wing propaganda that he would not understand anything if God Himself tried to explain it!!! AND THE IDIOT THINKS HE IS A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT, when in fact he just another brainless pawn of his far right billionaire masters!!!

  • JohnDille

    SO… YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE OBAMACARE SYSTEM… THAT REPUBLICANS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, AND THAT REPUBLICANS ENACTED INTO LAW IN MASSACHUSETTS, AND THAT REPUBLICANS ACTIVELY SUPPORTED WHILE BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT…. THAT THOSE SAME REPUBLICANS DECIDED TO FIGHT OBAMACARE… THAT THEY DESIGNED… FOR SIMPLE POLITICAL REASONS… BECAUSE THEIR RICH SUPPORTERS DID NOT WANT TO PAY A LITTLE EXTRA IN TAXES TO SUPPORT THE WHOLE PROGRAM… OR MAYBE BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO COOPERATE WITH A BLACK PRESIDENT???? HECK. EVERY DEMOCRAT IN AMERICA ALREADY KNOWS THAT! WE ARE JUST BAFFLED AT WHY YOU REPUBLICANS ARE TOO STUPID TO FIGURE OUT THE OBVIOUS!!!

  • JohnDille

    If I choose to own a car and to drive it, I know that I must pay for insurance. That’s a decision that I am in charge of. SO… IF YOU CHOOSE TO DODGE THAT REQUIREMENT… YOU CAN EXPECT TO PAY A FINE, BE FORCED TO GET AUTO INSURANCE…. OR GO TO JAIL! SOUNDS LIKE CHOOSING NOT TO GET AUTO INSURANCE IS CONSIDERED TO BE A CRIMINAL ACT! Not having health insurance is NOT a criminal act… they just levy a small fine if you do not get health insurance. SOUNDS LIKE THOSE REPUBLICANS WHO RUN A SOLID MAJORITY OF ALL THE STATES… AND WHO ALL REQUIRE AUTO INSURANCE… MUST BE A BUNCH OF DICTATORS!!!

  • JohnDille

    WHY WOULD I NEED ANY TALKING POINTS FROM ANYBODY! THE COMPARISON BETWEEN AUTO INSURANCE AND OBAMACARE IS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH A DOUBLE DIGIT IQ… which obviously you do not have… and you most certainly do not have a triple digit IQ!

  • JohnDille

    IF YOU DO NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE INSURANCE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GET IT, OR YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PAY A FINE. IF YOU DRIVE A CAR, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AUTO INSURANCE, AND IF YOU GET CAUGHT WITHOUT IT, YOU WILL PAY A STIFF FINE… BE REQUIIRED TO GET AUTO INSURANCE…. OR GO TO JAIL! SO, THE AUTO INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE MUCH TOUGHER THAN THE OBAMACARE REQUIRMENTS! and when gruber was talking about stupid Americans. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT YUOU RIGHT WING WORKING CLASS REPUBLICANS!!! You morons are MONUMENTALLY STUPID!!!

  • JohnDille

    Health Coverage Assistance through the Department of Health and Welfare provides health coverage or assistance in paying for health coverage for people who meet certain criteria.

    Medicaid/CHIP:

    Who is eligible?

    In order to receive health coverage from Medicaid, you must complete the application process and meet certain eligibility requirements. You must fit one of the following categories:

    Be a child under the age of 19, or

    Be a pregnant woman, or

    Be an adult with a child under the age of 19, or

    Be age 65 or older, or

    Be blind or disabled according to Social Security Administration criteria.

    If you fit one of the categories above, you must also meet the following eligibility criteria:

    You must be a citizen or legal immigrant, and

    You must be a resident of the State of in which you are filing, and

    Your household income must be less than the program income limits for your household size, and

    Your resources must not exceed the program resource limits.
    MY WIVES MOTHER IS 85 YEARS OLD… AND HER ONLY INCOME IS FROM SOCIAL SECURITY. SHE MAKES TOO MUCH FROM THAT… ABOUT $ 700 A MONTH… TO QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID, SO HER MEDICARE HAS TO COVER ALL OF HER MEDICAL EXPENSES… OR THE EXTRA COSTS COME OUT OF HER POCKET!!! MAYBE YOU RIGHT WINGERS SHOULD HIT THE BOOKS BEFORE YOU SPEW YOUR IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND SELFISHNESS ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!

  • JohnDille

    Cant you fools see republican they all work for the same corrupt GIANT REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CORPORATIONS all striving for the same goals the destruction of America as we use to know it. Replace all and start over wake up I guess if you haven’t figured it out by now its probably too late for you wake up.

  • JohnDille

    THE WHOLE POINT OF OBAMCARE IS TO BRING HEALTH CARE COSTS UNDER CONTROL, BY BREAKING THE MONOPOLY THAT RICH REPUBLICANS HAVE ON THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM OF THIS NATION!!! WHY DO YOU THINK THAT RICH REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING AN ALL OUT WAR AGAINST OBAMACARE….EVEN THOUGH NEARLY ALL OF OBAMACARE PROVISIONS WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BY REPUBLICANS??? ARE ALL YOU RIGHT WING LOONIES TOO STUPID TO SEE WHAT IS RREALLY HAPPENING HERE??? YOU IDIOTS ARE BEING PLAYED FOR FOOLS… BY YOUR OWN POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC MASTERS!!! of course, there is NOTHING NEW about any of that! they have been playing you morons for fools for the entire last century and more!!!

  • JohnDille

    AND IF YOU DO HAVE HEALTH CARE INSURANCE… YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY OBAMACARE… OR PAY ANY FINES! YOU ARE COMPARING FIRE AND ICE CAR AIMED AT THE WALL!!!

  • JohnDille

    They don’t so they have to redistribute the wealth of the working class tax payers. AS YOU REPUBLICANS KEEP TELLING US…. WORKING CLASS PEOPLE DO NOT PAY ANY TAXES!!! I ASSUME THAT APPLIES TO YOU, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU WORK AT MCDONALDS FOR LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE, AND WITH PART TIME HOURS, TO BOOT!!!

  • JohnDille

    MY BLACK WIFE DIED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. I AM NOW MARRIED TO A BROWN WOMAN… FROM THE PHILIPPINES. ALSO… 2 OF MY 3 KIDS ARE DEAD. MY ONE SURVIVING DAUGHTER IS DOING OK… IF YOU CALL WORKING 3 DIFFERENT JOBS AND STILL BARELY BEING ABLE TO PAY THE RENT AS BEING OK! BUT… THATS PRETTY MUCH THE NORM… ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN.. AND ALL MINORITIES… IN OUR REPUBLICAN DOMINATED PARADISE FOR RICH WHITE GUYS!!! BUT… THANKS FOR YOUR OBVIOUS CONCERN…. OR ARE YOU JUST ANOTHER RIGHT WING HYPOCRITE AND SELF CENTERED JERK???

  • Ranger3

    Obamacare is just another way to grow big government. A way to make the useful idiot think that the socialists care about them.

  • Ranger3

    I call BS. You can not be denied medical care. There are safety nets for the poor. If you can not pay for your medical bills there are many ways that they can get paid. I know the state you live in. The laws in that state is first is if you can’t pay the hospital/doctor goes to the county and makes a claim. The county commissioners review them pays for the bills. If the county won’t pay the bill you go to the state and the state reviews it and either requires the county to pay or they will pay. The only way you won’t get your bill paid is if you have the ability to pay your own bill. Hospitals/doctors eat the cost if you are a dead beat and have the ability but won’t pay your bills. There many of you socialists that won’t pay their bills. This raises the cost for everyone else.
    To your next point about the cost of care going up. The lawyers have caused that problem by filing malpractice suits. Doctors have to carry high limits of malpractice insurance because the ambulance chasing lawyers will sue for any reason. Because it cost them nothing to sue and juries will award astronomical settlements out of pity. If a medical device manufactures has to carry malpractice insurance for the same reason. If you don’t believe me watch all the commercials for the ambulance chasing lawyers.

  • Ranger3

    true so very true

  • Ranger3

    So lets get grass root support for constitutional politicians and get rid of the establishment candidate during the primary. Then work to get these people elected in the general election. By not voting you are indorsing the establishment politicians. I would like to see a third party, but most times they won’t win. Work to change the party and make a difference.

  • Ranger3

    It is all about control of the useful idiots. Buy their votes with freebies. The socialist/communist in both parties do it. Sadly most are uninformed voters that vote by name recognition instead of researching the candidate. That is why term limits has to be mandatory for all politicians.

  • Ranger3

    Back in 1993 when hilldabeast care was debated it was defeated, because there was not enough people indoctrinated into socialism. It took 20 years to get enough socialist indoctrinated to elect a socialist congress and president. The socialist politicians hid their agenda until after they were elected. That is why many of then don’t have their job after they voted for this bill. The majority of Americans knew that this was bad legislation. That is why it has never enjoyed a majority approval.

  • Ranger3

    WOW you must live in an alternate universe if you believe the crap you posted. You need to start reading more than the socialist indoctrination propaganda. Now pay close attention I am going to use logic and educate you a little. If that is possible. The socialist/democrats had a filibuster majority at the time this was being debated. Had they not the bill would never been passed. It would have been blocked.

  • Ranger3

    you are to stupid to see the obvious. It is ironic that you claim to be so smart and yet the best argument you can come up with is as lame as car insurance. What is the matter hasn’t the socialist/democrats came up with a better talking point for you to vomit out yet?

  • Ranger3

    dipweed it is nothing like car insurance. Driving a car is a privileged. You have a choice to buy and drive a car. There are many people in America that choose to not have a car. So they can opt out of care insurance. You can not opt out of obamacare. Also now they are calling it a penalty to not buy insurance. When it went before the supreme court obama argued it was a tax. Which is it? Just another way to dupe the useful idiots. Just like gruber said “Americans are to stupid to know difference” He was talking about you the useful idiots. A majority of Americans knew it was a disaster before the socialists/democrats passed the bill with out a single republican vote

  • Caraim

    Wrong again Pickle. Wow, you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Medicaid is for people with low income. Medicare is for people 65 or older. Perhaps you should hit the books before you try and act like you know everything.

  • Caraim

    Oh Dille Pickle. The ACA had NOTHING to do with controlling health care costs. This piece of legislation was health insurance reform not health care reform. Get your facts straight, you look foolish.

  • Caraim

    Wrong! If you don’t own a vehicle you do NOT have to buy car insurance. Your comparing apples and oranges Dille Pickle!

  • Ranger3

    Dillweed read the response I made to Fabian. There is info in it you will like

  • Ranger3

    They won’t even get the emergency room. They will get a waiting room, because there will not be enough doctors and hospitals to take care of them. obamacare has omitted some doctors and facilities from their plan. It also cut down on the price paid for each procedure. So many doctors will quite accepting insurance payments. Then only the people who can afford to pay out of pocket will have good medical service. So obamacare will make good medical care only for the wealthy. Again his policies hurt the poor the most, while helping the wealthy. That proves obama don’t care about the poor. Like all socialist they dupe the useful idiots into thinking they care for them. So they can keep getting the useful idiot vote

  • Ranger3

    I would send it to you, but you are the rocket scientist, brain surgeon, economist, voodoo witch doctor and social worker that cries about being broke all the time. With all those credentials and you can’t manage your money why would I want to give you more. Just like the government they have the self proclaimed smartest people in the world. The real geniuses (NOT) like obama, pelosi, holder, the entire state department, all of obama advisers and sleazy harry(who thank GOD he lost his job). With all that smart you would think they would know how to manage a budget. They don’t so they have to redistribute the wealth of the working class tax payers.
    I gladly give to needy people above and beyond the money the government strong arm robes from me to give to dead beat losers like you. The Koch brothers also give a lot to charities to help needy people. How much do you give? My guess is nothing because you and all your socialist buddies are takers. A bunch of leaches on the American working class.

  • FranklySpeaking

    JohnDille, I’m sadden to hear that you and your new WHITE wife have been feeling ill…………..you may ask want makes me say, your new white wife? Well, a couple of months ago, you replied back to me in a post and the bold font below is a snippet of what you wrote.
    Well, my BLACK wife and our 3 BLACK kids would view YOUR assertions of MY racism with skepticism… OR AT LEAST THEY WOULD IF MY BLACK WIFE AND OUR BLACK KIDS WERE STILL ALIVE! Sadly, only my oldest daughter is still alive.

    What really sadden me, are the lies

  • 1dangerous1

    Cant you fools see republican democrat Obama they all work for the same corrupt government all striving for the same goals the destruction of America as we use to know it. Replace all and start over wake up I guess if you haven’t figured it out by now its probably too late for you wake up.

  • JohnDille

    the fact is that a law as well as the rest written by the bureaucrats totaling a column of 7 feet of paper can’t be read, assimilated and put in practice by all those concerned. That is not possible, even with wide spacing. And 40 years ago they didn’t write laws like that. MASSIVE LAWS LIKE THE LEGISLATION THAT CREATED OBAMCARE IS ACTUALLY RATHER STANDARD STUFF…. AND HAS BEEN FOR MANY DECADES… MOST DEFINITELY 40 AND 50 YEARS AGO!!!

  • JohnDille

    The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act consists of a combination of measures to control healthcare costs, and an expansion of coverage through public and private insurance: broader Medicaid eligibility and Medicare coverage, and subsidized, regulated private insurance. An individual mandate coupled with subsidies for private insurance as a means for universal healthcare was considered the best way to win the support of the Senate because it had been included in prior bipartisan reform proposals. The concept goes back to at least 1989, when the conservative Heritage Foundation proposed an individual mandate as an alternative to single-payer health care.[48] It was championed for a time by conservative economists and Republican senators as a market-based approach to healthcare reform on the basis of individual responsibility and avoidance of free rider problems. Specifically, because the 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) requires any hospital participating in Medicare (which nearly all do) to provide emergency care to anyone who needs it, the government often indirectly bore the cost of those without the ability to pay.[49][50][51]

    When President Bill Clinton proposed a healthcare reform bill in 1993 that included a mandate for employers to provide health insurance to all employees through a regulated marketplace of health maintenance organizations, Republican Senators proposed an alternative that would have required individuals, but not employers, to buy insurance.[50] Ultimately the Clinton plan failed amid an unprecedented barrage of negative advertising funded by politically conservative groups and the health insurance industry and due to concerns that it was overly complex.[52] After failing to obtain a comprehensive reform of the healthcare system, Clinton negotiated a compromise with the 105th Congress to instead enact the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) in 1997.[53]

    John Chafee

    The 1993 Republican alternative, introduced by Senator John Chafee as the Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act, contained a “universal coverage” requirement with a penalty for noncompliance—an individual mandate—as well as subsidies to be used in state-based ‘purchasing groups’.[54] Advocates for the 1993 bill included prominent Republicans who today oppose a mandate, such as Senators Orrin Hatch, Chuck Grassley, Bob Bennett, and Kit Bond.[55][56] Of the 43 Republicans Senators from 1993, 20 supported the HEART Act.[48][57] Another Republican proposal, introduced in 1994 by Senator Don Nickles (R-OK), the Consumer Choice Health Security Act, contained an individual mandate with a penalty provision;[58] however, Nickles subsequently removed the mandate from the bill, stating he had decided “that government should not compel people to buy health insurance”.[59] At the time of these proposals, Republicans did not raise constitutional issues with the mandate; Mark Pauly, who helped develop a proposal that included an individual mandate for George H.W. Bush, remarked, “I don’t remember that being raised at all. The way it was viewed by the Congressional Budget Office in 1994 was, effectively, as a tax.”[48]

    Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts went from 90% of its residents insured to 98%, the highest rate in the nation.[60]

    In 2006, an insurance expansion bill was enacted at the state level in Massachusetts. The bill contained both an individual health insurance mandate and an insurance exchange. Republican Governor Mitt Romney vetoed the mandate, but after Democrats overrode his veto, he signed it into law.[61] Romney’s implementation of the ‘Health Connector’ exchange and individual mandate in Massachusetts was at first lauded by Republicans. During Romney’s 2008 presidential campaign, Senator Jim DeMint praised Romney’s ability to “take some good conservative ideas, like private health insurance, and apply them to the need to have everyone insured.” Romney said of the individual mandate: “I’m proud of what we’ve done. If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be the model for the nation.”[62]

    In 2007, a year after the Massachusetts reform, Republican Senator Bob Bennett and Democratic Senator Ron Wyden introduced the Healthy Americans Act, which also featured an individual mandate and state-based regulated insurance markets called “State Health Help Agencies”.[51][62] The bill initially attracted bipartisan support but died in committee. Many of the sponsors and co-sponsors remained in Congress during the 2008 healthcare debate.[63]

    By 2008 many Democrats were considering using this approach as the basis for healthcare reform. Experts have said that the legislation that eventually emerged from Congress in 2009 and 2010 bears many similarities to the 2007 bill[54] and that it was deliberately patterned after Romney’s state healthcare plan

  • Fabian

    Whatever Sir but the fact is that a law as well as the rest written by the bureaucrats totaling a column of 7 feet of paper can’t be read, assimilated and put in practice by all those concerned. That is not possible, even with wide spacing. And 40 years ago they didn’t write laws like that.

  • JohnDille

    DON’T WORRY ABOUT MY HEALTH… I HAVE OBAMACARE, OR AS THEY USED TO CALL IT, MEDICARE! AS FOR REFUTING THE TRUTHS I HAVE TOLD… EXCACTLY HOW CAN YOU REFUTE THE TRUTH???

  • JohnDille

    LAST SUMMER, THE FACTORY WHERE MY WIFE WORKED SHUT DOWN, SO SHE LOST THE JOB SHE HAD BEEN WORKING AT FOR 19 YEARS. BY LAW, THE COMPANY HAD TO TELL ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR JOBS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. AMONG WHAT SHE WAS TOLD IS THAT THE COMPANY HAD BEN PAYING RIGHT AT $ 1,000 A MONTH ON HER BEHALF, FOR SIMPLE BASIC HEALTH INSURANCE…. WITH A $7,500 DEDUCTABLE!! THE SAME COMPANY WAS PAYING ABOUT $ 200 A MONTH WHEN I WORKED THERE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, WITH NO DEDUCTABLE. COINCIDENTALLY OR NOT, HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS WHERE SHE WORKED SOARED WHILE GEORGE BUSH JUNIOR WAS PRESIDENT… INCREASING BY A FACTOR OF 4 JUST WHILE HE WAS IN OFFICE… AND FOR MUCH LOWER QUALITY INSURANCE!!! I WORKED AT WAL-MART, AND THE DEDUCTABLE THERE WAS $ 7,500, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY PLAN THAT MOST PEOPLE COULD POSSIBLY AFFORD THERE!!! FULL HIGH QUALITY INSURANCE WITH ONLY $ 2,000 DEDUCTABLE COST MORE THAN ANY OF US EARNED, EVEN IF WE WERE WORKING FULL TIME!!! OBAMACARE WAS INSITUTITED AS A WAY TO TRY TO BREAK THE HEALTH COST SPIRAL THAT EXISTED LONG BEFORE OBAMA EVEN TOOK OFFICE! AND THAT HEALTH CARE COST SPIRAL WAS PUSHING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM…. LONG BEFORE OBAMACARE WAS EVEN PROPOSED!!!

  • g13man

    actually a few rhinos did

  • JohnDille

    We passed an O’care type of a law in the 90’s and the law was 16 pages long, not 2,500. The mere quantity of paper this initiative produced is a guarantee of failure. MOST LEGISLATIVE BILLS IN THIS COUNTRY REQUIRE ENABLING LEGISLATION… THAT IS… A DESCRIPTION AND LISTING OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT AND HOW AND WHETRE AND WHEN SOMETHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE FEDERAL BUDGET SOME TIME. IT IS FULL OF A SYNOPISIS OF ALL THAT ENABLING LEGISLATION, WHICH IS, ITSLEF, TOTALS MILLIONS OF PAGES. I would bet that the actual ACA klegislation itself… not counting all of the enabling legislation… which the legislators rarely read because it has little to do with the actual legislation itself. was probably no more than 25 to 50 pages long… if that… and if you have ever looked at that kind of stuff… the pages are usually double spaced and have wide margins… so boiled down, 25 pages of that stuff would add up to maybe 10 pages of actual text! AND BESIDES, IT IS THE STAFF OF EACH LEGISLATOR WHO IS SUPPOSED TO READ ALL OF THAT STUFF, AND MAKE NOTES OR HIGHLIGHT PASSAGES THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE OR SENATOR SHOULD PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO… SO HE OR SHE CAN DO HIS OR HER ACTUAL JOB… WHICH IS TO DEBATE AND VOTE ON ALL OF THAT LEGISLATION… OFTEN ON A LINE BY LINE OR EVEN PHRASE BY PHRASE OR WORD BY WORD BASIS. IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING, I WAS AN AIDE TO A CONGRESSMAN FROM ILLINOIS ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO, SO I HAVE SEEN HOW ALL THAT STUFF WORKS, FIRST HAND!!!

  • JohnDille

    YOU ARE THE DOCTOR, SO I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE TELLING ME THE TRUTH, AND THAT YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT… unlike most of the right wingers who mostly dominate this board!!! BUT LETS LOOK AT THIS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SOME AVERAGE WORKING STIFF…. ME! I have been to a doctor exactly 3 times in the last 40 years… ALL because of work place injuries. I used not to go because I had no insurance at all… and could not afford to pay cash… so I simply did not go, even when I most certainly should have gone! ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I FINALLY GOT HEALTH INSURANCE SPONSORED BY MY EMPLOYER. Over the next dozen years, I got hurt twice at work. The first time I went to the doctor, who looked me over for no more than 5 minutes, prescribed some pain pills, AND CHARGED ME 3 FULL WEEKS PAY…. AND THAT WAS AFTER THE INSURANCE PAID A MAJORITY OF THE BILL. THE SECOND TIME I GOT HURT, I WAS IN EXTREME PAIN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, AND THEN MY LEG SWELLED UP DRAMATICALLY, AND TURNED BLACK AND BLUE… SO I FINALLY WENT TO THE DOCTOR, WHO TOLD ME THE BRUISING WAS A GOOD SIGN, AND SHE PRESCRIBED SOME PAIN PILLS… AND I GOT ANOTHER BILL FOR 3 FULL WEEKS PAY… AFTER THE INSURANCE COMPANY KICKED IN A MAJORITY OF THE EXPENSES. Maybe 8 years ago, I got hurt again… I strained my back somehow, and literally could not walk for about 2 weeks. That time, I had no insurance at all, but the pain was intense, so I assumed that I had done some real damage to my back. So, finally after a week or so, I went to the doctor. THE DOCTOR LOOKED ME OVER FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES, PRESCRIBED SOME PAIN PILLS, AND SENT ME A BILL THAT WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF 2 FULL MONTHS PAY!!! And THAT expense did not include the cost of not being able to work for two full weeks!!! NOW… IN ALL HONESTY, CAN YOU NOT SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE SO CALLED HEALTH CARE SCAM THAT MOST OF US LOWER INCOME WORKING PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED OFF??? My wife and I have been VERY sick the last wek or so from the flu, or something, BUT NEITHER OF US WENT TO A DOCTOR. HER 85 YEAR OLD MOTHER WAS DANGEROUSLY ILL… SO WE FINALLY BROKE DOWN AND TOOK HER TO A DOCTOR… AND THEY PUT HER IN THE HOSPITAL FOR 3 DAYS. SHE STILL IS SICK, BUT AT LEAST NOT DANGEROUSLY SO… WE HOPE… BUT WE DELAYED TAKING HER BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY THAT SHE OR WEE CAN AFFORD THE BILLS… EVEN THOUGH SHE IS ON MEDICARE!!! How much that is going to set us back, I have no idea… but I am expectin a bill in then multiple thousands… 4 or 5 months of social security income… at least! NOW… CONTRAST ALL OF THAT WITH MY FAVORITE HEALTH CARE STORY…. WHEN I WAS A KID, I JUMPED OFF A LOADING DOCK AND BURST A VEIN IN MY FOOT. I GRITTED OUT THE PAIN ALL DAY LONG, IN PART BECAUSE I WAS TERRIFIED OF GETTING BEAT WHEN MY PARENTS GOT HOME, AND IN PART BECAUSE I WAS HOPING THAT THE PAIN WOULD GO AWAY. BUT THE PAIN GOT WORSED, AND AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL DAY, I LITERALLY COULD NOT STAND UP… AT ALL! The chief of Police came and took me to the doctor… my parents were working out of state at the time… and the doctor himself cut my foot out of my boot, because it was too swollen to take off any other way… then he X-Rayed my foot, and then he built a cast on it… and a couple of weks later he cut it off… himself. MY DADS INSURANCE PAID ABOUT 50 DOLLARS… AND MY DAD PAID $ 12… AND THAT WAS THE TOTAL COST OF THAT ORDEAL. TODAY, THAT SAME INJURY WOULD SURELY COST SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND MAYBE OVER TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN SOME RIP OFF HOSPITALS AROUND THE COUNTRY! AGAIN. LOOKED AT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW… WHICH IS SURELY VERY SIMILAR TO THE POINT OF VIEW OF AT LEAST A HUNDRED MILLION LOWER INCOME WORKING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY….. THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY IS SURELY THE WORLDS BIGGEST SCAM… WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTUION OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY! AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT ALL REAL LEGITIMATE TRULY COMPAASIONATE DOCTORS WHO SE MEDICAL CARE AS A WAY TO REALLY HELP PEOPLE AND NOT JUST GET RICH OFF OF THEM, WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT OPINION!!!

  • Joe Cabot

    There is no obvious comparison to dodge. If I choose to own a car and to drive it, I know that I must pay for insurance. That’s a decision that I am in charge of. I am not in charge of my options when it comes to health insurance. A bunch of corrupt, political bozos made that decision for me. Big difference. Oh, and your assertion that republicans passed the auto insurance laws? Can you back that one up with any real evidence or is it just another of your cases of intermittent babbling?

  • JohnDille

    YOU ARE STILL DODGING THE OBVIOUS COMPARISON. IF YOU ARE A DRIVER, YOU WILL BE FINED IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AUTO INSURANCE…. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU MIGHT BE FINED UNLESS YOU ARE EXEMPT FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF REASONS. THE AUTO INSURANCE LAWS ARE MORE GOVERNMENT OVER REACH THAN THE HEALTH CARE LAW IS… PROBABLY BECAUSE REPUBLICANS PASSED THE AUTO INSURANCE LAWS BECAUSE BIG BUSINESS WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE WITHOUT IT!!!

  • Jean

    You are totally brainwashed. I hope you enjoy your crappy coverage under Obamacare OR a large penalty if you don’t buy it. If you still believe Obama about anything, you are dumber than a box of rocks. He is an habitual LIAR. Stop blaming the Republicans for Obamacare. NOT ONE OF THEM VOTED FOR THIS. Get your facts straight.

  • Geri D

    You are so right. I hope your Med school bills are paid up. When it boils down to it and these FREE Freaks (I’m not talking about people who are really hurting) when the money runs out, and thats fast approaching, they will be singing a different tune. God Bless you and I hope you can find a way to keep your nose above water.

  • Geri D

    NOT WRONG – SEE I KNOW HOW TO USE CAPITAL LETTERS TOO . Maybe you are not educated in the difference between Medicaid and Medicare. Medicaid is for low income people of any age. Medicare is for people over 65.

    Both programs were in place before Ocrapycare. We are arguing the same point YOU LOUDMOUTH. There is no incentive for anyone to earn more money to get off the FREE programs if the penalty is that they have to pay back the subsidy. Medicaid clients do not pay for some of their own insurance. Either you qualify because your income is low enough to qualify or you don’t even with Ocrapycare. Anyone who does not qualify for Medicaid has to accept the subsidy to cover the cost of the medical plan they choose, and if the subsidy doesn’t cover the price of the plan, they have to pay the difference. For people in between Medicaid and Wealth, it is a very high price to pay considering 99% of the plans offered have $4000. – $5000. – and $6000. deductibles.

  • Fabian

    Anyway, under ACA in CA for instance, if you can only afford the lowest cost of insurance you get Medicare. I live in LA, the closest doctor available under the plan was 15 miles away with a name you need to study 5 years of Sanscrit to pronounce. The closest available hospital was down-town, basically on skid row. And that’s authentic. This law is an illusion. A total illusion. By the way I’m from Switzerland. We passed an O’care type of a law in the 90’s and the law was 16 pages long, not 2,500. The mere quantity of paper this initiative produced is a guarantee of failure.

  • GWDenier

    Yeow!! You’ve overwhelmed me by the sheer volume of your one-sided BS that I would have to refute. Besides, you sound like you’re about to bust an aneurysm. For the sake of your health, I’ll be compassionate and stop right here so your adrenaline levels can drop back to normal.

  • Fabian

    Which means that those getting health care for free will continue to get health care for free; they will not subscribe to an insurance and will not pay the penalty. The only thing that changed is that for people who where paying for health care, we put the government in the middle. So, of course it’s more expensive. This money will not be available fro other endeavor but only profit the administrative part of the health care industry. And that will be of no use to the health of the nation.
    As to the poor, they will still get about what they got before; the emergency room.

  • Michael

    Medicaid, Smedicaid: I am an MD – to see a Medicaid patient in Illinois for a simple office visit I net $13.85 IF I am lucky and if I wait wait for 6-9 months. (Illinois is close to $1B behind in Medicaid reimbursements and it runs me $20 bucks to get my hair cut.) My “cost” per patient (i.e. nurse, rent, heat, utilities, malpractice, government paperwork, etc., etc.) is close to $10 per patient at least so I lose money every time I see a Medicaid patient AND the reimbursement is DROPPING for two years since this Obamacare nonsense. I still see some of these patients who are desperate for care and have been with me for a while but it is clearly not a viable business model. Most MDs around me DO NOT see Medicaid patients at all or limit it to 10 patients a week or so – lest they go out of business. Just go to your yellow pages and call around to a few of these “liberal” MDs (who spout on TV how “good” this is) and “ask” if they take Medicaid patients themselves in their offices. I have done it and they DO NOT. Some take 5 Medicaid patients per week because their Hospital “requires” them to accept Medicaid to be on staff but they do not (can not) dictate “how many”. Bottom line is just because you have “insurance” (i.e. Medicaid) does not mean you have, or can get get “health care”. The Hospitals can still make a go of it at Medicaid rates for THEIR services, i.e. lab, x-ray, CT scans , etc. but they have to WAIT for their money for “years” at times and those reimbursements are dropping as well. One small hospital in my area is owed $2M dollars from the state of Illinois for Medicaid care delivered over the past 2.5 years – they will never see it in my opinion. I, along with many other MDs will be gone in a few years anyway as my malpractice went from $24K to $28K last year and my practice “income” fell. So you will be seeing a Nurse Practitioner next, then a nurse, then a paramedic and then a “medicine man”. It is crazy. My good friend, who is an auto mechanic, made more than I did last year for a forty hour week compared to my 60 hours.I’m out of the game in two years – as are many others. Not because I do not like the work and care about people but I can not afford to stay “in the game” with the way things are going. And, BTW, I’m not some loser MD – I’m board certified in three different specialties – just so happens not the high paying ones.

    Take your vitamins and eat an apple a day !

    MD

  • Joe Cabot

    Technicality? Plenty of people don’t own cars or drive them so they do not have the obligation to purchase auto insurance. Yet no one can opt out of health insurance without having to pay a penalty. That’s no technicality – that is government overreach.

  • JohnDille

    Medicaid is the largest source of funding for medical and health-related services for people with low income in the United States. It is a means-tested program that is jointly funded by the state and federal governments and managed by the states,[1] with each state currently having broad leeway to determine who is eligible for its implementation of the program. States are not required to participate in the program, although all currently do. Medicaid recipients must be U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, and may include low-income adults, their children, and people with certain disabilities. Poverty alone does not necessarily qualify someone for Medicaid.

    The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act significantly expanded both eligibility for and federal funding of Medicaid
    .SO… YOUR 29 YEAR OLD GOT MEDICAID AS PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT… OBAMACARE IN OTHER WORDS!!! AND HERE YOU ARE ATTACKING OBAMACARE!!! I GUESS YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE JUST PATHOLOGICAL LIARS!!!

  • JohnDille

    YEAH…. THE GOVERNMENT OUGHT TO RUN THINGS LIKE PRIVATE COMPANIES DO…. IGNORE THE POOR AND CHEAT EVERYBODY ELSE!!! IN RECENT DECADES, AS REPUBLICANS HAVE BECOME EVER MORE POWERFUL AND EVER MORE IN CONTROL OF THE COUNTIES, STATES AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE PRIVATIZED NUMEROUS PRISONS AND SCHOOLS AND WATER AND SEWER AND SANITATION SYSTEMS AND HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION AND SO ON AND ON AND ON… AND THE RESULT HAS MOSTLY BEEN A TOTAL DISASTER… IN MY OWN STATE, IT HAS BEEN SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL IN THE PRISON SYSTEM… WHICH PRIVATE COMPANIES RUN! THEY PAY TOO LITTLE TO ATTRACT PROFESSIONAL GUARDS, SO THE PRISON STAFF JUST LET THE PRISONSERS RUN EVERYTHING!!! IT WORKS GREAT… THE WHITE SUPREMECISTS TOTALLY RUN ALL 3 PRISONS IN THE STATE, AND IF ANY MINORITES GET OUT OF LINE, THEY GET MURDERED! WOMEN PRISONERS ARE AUCTIONED OFF TO ANY PRIVATE GUARD WHO WANTS TO GET HAPPY WITH ONE… OR THEY JUST RAPE WHOEVER THEY WANT, SINCE THERE IS NO ONE AROUND TO STOP THEM!!! JUST ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL! AND THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS HERE ARE REALLY GREAT… TOO… IF THEY HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE POOR LEARNERS OR WHO HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS… THEY DUMP THEM ON THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM… WHICH ALSO SUBSIDIES THE FOR PROFIT PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. AND PRIVATIZING THE MILITARY WORKED GREAT, TOO… FOR ALL THE COMPANIES INVOLVED IN THAT MASSIVE SCAM… BUT NOT SO GREAT FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!! AND THE MAJOR REASON THAT THE POST OFFICE HAS BEEN LOSING MONEY IS BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED…. BY LAW…. TO HANDLE TENS OF BILLIONS OF PIECES OF VERY LOW COST MAILINGS BY BIG ADVERTISERS WHO PAY THE POST OFFICE ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY FED EX TO DELIVER THE SAME STUFF…. IF FEDE EX EVEN BOTHERED WITH SUCH GARBAGE! AND FEDEX DOES NOT EVEN DELIVER TO ALL THE LOW INCOME AREAS THAT THE POST OFFICE IS REQUIRED… BY LAW… TO DELIVER TO!!! ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC!!!

  • GWDenier

    No John. You’re wrong. I personally know a 29-year old single, healthy female who just got Medicaid. She qualifies only because she makes less than $10,000 per year. Her low income is the ONLY qualifier necessary. Another one of your liberal lies gone up in smoke!

  • GWDenier

    It amazes me how you libs think the FedGov can run things more efficiently than the private sector. All you have to do is compare the Post Office to either UPS or Fedex to prove how inefficient the FedGov is. They never have to worry about making a profit since they can always soak the taxpayers to pay for their deficits. There are 130+ new bureaucracies being set up to run ObamaCare. Whose going to pay for all those new FedGov employees? Not to mention all the new IRS agents being hired to collect the ObamaCare fees and fines. And you really think costs are going to go down? Any one who doesn’t qualify for gov’t. subsidies (e.g., the entire middle class) will see their premiums go up. It’s not just the “rich” who are paying for this. That’s another fantasy perpetuated by the libs, just to sell us this pig.

  • JohnDille

    WIKIPEDIA… FROM WHICH THAT LITTLE CLIP WAS COPIED… IS HARDLY A LEFTY RAG! THOSE FOLKS ARE VERY AGGRESSIVELY NON PARTISAN!!! THEY DEMAND DOCUMENTED FACTS… OR IT DOES NOT GET PUT INTO THEIR ARTICLES…. WHICH IS WHY I MAKE WIDE USE OF IT, AND YOU RIGHT WINGERS ALMOST NEVER DO!!!

  • JohnDille

    JOE THE SHADY LAWYER, DODGING THE TRUTH BY HIDING BEHIND A TECHNICALITY!!! IF YOU DO DRIVE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AUTO INSURANCE… AS FAR AS I KNOW, IN ALL 50 STATES. AND THAT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN BEING REQUIRED TO HAVE HEALTH CARE INSURANCE… FOR PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL REASONS… TO KEEP THE DEAD BEATS FROM BANKRUPTING THE SYSTEM FOR EVERYBODY ELSE! YOU MAY PREFER TO DEFEND DEAD BEATS…. YOU REPUBLICANS ARE VERY GOOD AT DOING THAT… BUT EXPECT OTHER FOLKS TO CALL YOU ON IT!!!

  • JohnDille

    I STAND BY MY STATEMENT…. IF YOU ARE GOING TO LIE IN PUBLIC, EXPECT PEOPLE TO CALL YOU ON IT!!! AND JUST BECAUSE YOU RIGHT WINGERS ARE TOO ARROGANT AND SELFISH AND PIG HEADED TO ACCEPT A FAIRLY MINOR CHANGE TO THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM SIMPLY BECAUSE IT BENEFITS A FEW MILLION LOW INCOME PEOPLE, MOSTLY AT THE EXPENSE OF A HANDFUL OF RICH PEOPLE, DOES NOT MAKE YOUR LIES ANY MORE PALATABLE!!!

  • Joe Cabot

    A shocking lack of capitalization and misspellings. A bang up job of cutting & pasting from a lefty rag. Well played!

  • JohnDille

    This approach was taken because the president and congressional leaders had concluded that more progressive plans, such as the (single-payer) Medicare for All act, could not obtain filibuster-proof support in the Senate. By deliberately drawing on bipartisan ideas — the same basic outline was supported by former Senate majority leaders Howard Baker, Bob Dole, Tom Daschle and George J. Mitchell—the bill’s drafters hoped to increase the chances of garnering the necessary votes for passage.[77][78]

    However, following the adoption of an individual mandate as a central component of the proposed reforms by Democrats, Republicans began to oppose the mandate and threatened to filibuster any bills that contained it.[48] Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell, who led the Republican congressional strategy in responding to the bill, calculated that Republicans should not support the bill, and worked to keep party discipline and prevent defections:[79]

    Republican Senators, including those who had supported previous bills with a similar mandate, began to describe the mandate as “unconstitutional.” Journalist Ezra Klein wrote in The New Yorker that “the end result was … a policy that once enjoyed broad support within the Republican Party suddenly faced unified opposition.”[51] Reporter Michael Cooper of The New York Times wrote that: “It can be difficult to remember now, given the ferocity with which many Republicans assail it as an attack on freedom, but the provision in President Obama’s healthcare law requiring all Americans to buy health insurance has its roots in conservative thinking.”[50][57]

  • Joe Cabot

    Uh, crazy uncle, auto insurance is not mandatory unless one chooses to drive a car.

  • GWDenier

    I stand by everything I said, not your phony estimates. All you ever spout is lies, John. I seriously think you can’t tell the difference. About 50% of doctors have stated they will either quit or retire early because of ObamaCare. Doctor shortages and cost containment will force the FedGov to ration healthcare. That means old people are screwed. Since life expectancy is into the late 70s for most folks, a lot more than 10% of the population will be affected eventually. That doesn’t even count the number of people who have to get health insurance on their own, not through employers. These people are already getting cancellations or hefty premium increases. To use your own words “WHEN YOU LIE IN PUBLIC, YOU SHOULD EXPECT FOR SOMEONE TO CATCH YOU AT IT!!!”.

  • JohnDille

    SO… YOU REFUSE TO BUY CAR INSURANCE, TOO??? IT WORKS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY ACA DOES…. YOU BUY IT UNLESS YOU ARE COVERED BY SOME OTHER PLAN, OR YOU PAY A FINE IF YOU GET CAUGHT WITHOUT IT…. BECAUSE STATES AND PEOPLE AND COMPANIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY GOT SICK AND TIRED OF PAYING THE COSTS INCURRED BY UNINSURED DRIVERS!!!

  • Joe Cabot

    Uh, the entire piece of legislative garbage was constructed by lefties. I know that you despise dealing in reality, but facts is facts.

  • JohnDille

    MAY AS WELL REDISTRIBUTE THE INCOME… YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT NEED THE 30 DOLLARS A DAY YOU MAKE WORKING AT MCDONALDS… SO GIVE THAT MONEY TO SOMEONE WHO DOES…. THE KOCK BROTHERS, FOR INSTANCE!!!

  • Joe Cabot

    It doesn’t matter if the penalty is only on one person. Being forced to purchase a product of paying a fine for not doing so is a disgusting political sham.

  • JohnDille

    SO… YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT??? IF YOU FIGURE DEMOCRATS TO BE NOT TOO BRIGHT, NO WONDER YOU DENY BELONGING TO THAT CLAN…. JUST AS YOU DENY BELONGING TO THE REPUBLICAN CLAN… I GUESS YOU ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO MEET THEIR STANDARDS… LOW THOUGH THEY SO CLEARLY ARE!!!

  • JohnDille

    People who make an income of $10,000. are and always have been able to get Medcaid. WRONG!!! LOW INCOME PEOPLE CAN GET MEDICAID IF THEY ARE OVER 65, OR HAVE OTHER QUALIFYING FACTORS THAT ALLOW THEM TO GET SUCH ASSISTANCE! THE ACA IS MEANT TO HELP CUT THE COSTS OF MEDICAID BY REQUIRING MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE ELIGIBLE FOR MEDICAID TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME OF THEIR OWN INSUTRANCE!!!

  • JohnDille

    ObamaCare was never anything more than a takeover of 1/6th of the U.S. economy, whatever the cost OBAMACARE WILL PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT A 2% IMPACT ON THE US ECONOMY, BECAUSE IT WILL ONLY IMPACT ABOUT 10% OF THE POPULATION… IF THAT… AND THEY ARE MOSTLY LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO WILL ONLY GET THE LOWEST COST FORMS OF INSURANCE!!! WHEN YOU LIE IN PUBLIC, YOU SHOULD EXPECT FOR SOMEONE TO CATCH YOU AT IT!!!

  • JohnDille

    YEAH…. OBAMA DID NOT FIGURE ON REPUBLICANS DELIBERATELY SABOTAGING THE WHOLE PLAN, SO HE SOLD THE IDEA BEFORE HE REALIZED THAT REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO LOAD A BUNCH OF GARBAGE INTO IT!!!

  • JohnDille

    SO… ALL YOU DEAD BEAT REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE GETTING HEALTH CARE FOR FREE??? PEOPLE GET HEALTH CARE WITHOUT ANY INSURANCE, AND THEIR COSTS HAVE TO BE PASSED ON TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FORM OF HIGHER PRICES. THAT IS A MAJOR GOAL OF ACA… TO BREAK THE PRICE SPIRAL THAT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THAT!!! AS FOR THE PENALTY FOR NOT HAVING INSURANCE… AS THE STORY ABOVE SHOULD MAKE CLER… THOSE PENALTIES ARE SIGNIFICANT ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INCOMES…. MOST MARRIED COUPLES EARNING LESS THAN 30 THOUSAND A YEAR WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY ANY PENALTY AT ALL…. AND MORE THAN 40,000 A YEAR IF THEY HAVE AT LEAST 2 KIDS!!! PEOPLE EARNING MORE THAN THAT PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE INSURANCE, AND WOULD NOT NEED ANY ACA SPONSORED INSURANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHICH WAS THE INTENTION BUILT INTO THE ACA!!!

  • Ranger3

    The only lie was obama and gruber saying they wanted to help the people. This is all about controlling the useful idiots with wealth redistribution

  • Joe Cabot

    Well, whatever the percentage of the population that is made up of democrats, they are not the brightest clan, so overrunning them would not seem to be a herculean task.

  • Geri D

    People who make an income of $10,000. are and always have been able to get Medcaid. They did not receive any additional coverage or benefits from Obamacare. The poor people that Obama saved were already saved. Medicaid covers them whether or not they have pre-existing conditions or not. So to claim that Obamacare saved the poor is a big lie. Also, Obamacare is a huge burden for those people who don’t make over $60,000. a year. The additional expense throws them into having to be homeless or having Obamacare. And lastly, if you project a certain amount of income for the coming year and you exceed that, you have to payback all the subsidy, so it takes the incentive away from earning more.

  • GWDenier

    They have to lie their fannies off to sell this pig to us. ObamaCare was never anything more than a takeover of 1/6th of the U.S. economy, whatever the cost. Now that Obama has complete control over healthcare, he’s going after education also (“free” junior college tuition for everyone). This guy is the biggest control freak POTUS we’ve ever seen. He won’t be happy until every aspect of our lives is overseen by the FedGov. Unfortunately, we don’t have an opposition party any more. Despite their occasional pontifications to the contrary, the establishment Republicans seem to just want to bend over in front of him and let him have his way with them and us.

  • Joe Cabot

    Oh, and do not forget the penalty for NOT purchasing a version of this disaster. For all of Barry’s blathering about how he supports economic freedom, to be forced to either buy this load of garbage or to pay a fine for not buying goes against every economic tenet upon which this country was founded.

  • Joe Cabot

    Seems like the lefties have told a few whoppers as well. – you can keep your current plan – premiums won’t go up – more Americans will be insured – and the best one of all, that this would actually lower government costs, when any knowledgeable human knows that the the bureaucratic black hole in DC simply cannot do anything of the magnitude without building on an efficient level.

  • JohnDille

    WHAT’S OFF TOPIC ABOUT MY COMMENT, TROLL??? THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT OBAMACARE, AND MY COMMENT WAS ABOUT OBAMACARE, AND THE WAY THAT REPUBLICANS CONSTANTLY LIE ABOUT IT!!!

  • JohnDille

    I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE… HE STATED THE FACTS, WITHOUT ONCE BASHING ANYBODY… SO HE PROBABLY IS A DEMOCRAT! BUT… IF 2/3RDS OF ALL AMERICANS ARE DEMOCRATS…. HOW COME REPUBLICANS ALMOST TOTALLY CONTROL OUR NATION??? IT IS CLEAR THAT THEY CHEAT IN A WIDE VARIETY OF WAYS… SOME LEGAL… SOME NOT… BUT EVEN SO… THERE IS NO WAY THAT REPUBLICANS COULD CONTROL AMERICA IF ONLY ONE THIRD OF ALL AMERIANS ARE REPUBLICANS!!!

  • Craig Silver

    Another off topic “I hate republicans” rant by John Douche the troll

  • Eileen

    who said the author of the article is a Republican? Almost 2/3 of the nation is Democrat so if I knew nothing about the person who wrote the article, I would guess that the person is a Democrat. Moreover, others have said the same thing. So why should the content in here be a surprise?

  • JohnDille

    SORRY…. NOT… TO DISAPPOINT YOU!!!

  • JohnDille

    GEE… YOU MEAN THAT LOWER INCOME PEOPLE… FOR WHOM AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE WAS MADE AVAILABLE… WON’T EVEN NEED TO PAY THE PENALTY IF THEIR INCOME IS TOO LOW…. EVEN IF THEY HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE AT ALL???? YOU MEAN THAT MOST LOW INCOME PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN NEED TO GET INSURANCE AND WILL NOT EVEN NEED TO PAY ANY PENALTY AT ALL??? THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE BALONEY THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN SCREAMING AT US FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS OR SO. But… no surprise, I guess… since when do Republicans EVER tell the truth???

  • Joe Cabot

    For some reason I get the feeling that someone who hangs around these forums will show up yelling and screaming about how this entire article is a lie, how BarryCare is the greatest piece of legislation ever brought down from the mountain, and how anyone who does not like it despises humanity. Because,you know, facts don’t matter.